Why Nine Minutes?

I have three alarm clocks and two clock-radios in my house, all of which have a snooze button them. Now, I might be slow, or I just might not have been paying attention, or--more likely--I just didn’t care enough to realize in the past that when the snooze button is pressed, all of these clocks silence the alarm for nine minutes. My question is: Why nine minutes? Why not eight minutes? Why not ten minutes? Why not seven minutes and thirty-two seconds? Why doesn’t it vary from clock to clock? What’s so special about nine minutes?

You can’t get any real rest in nine minutes. You’re spouse probably isn’t going to jump up and scurry into the bathroom as to be finished with it by the time nine minutes is up. You’re certainly not going to be inspired with a billion dollar idea in that nine minutes of semi-lucidity...and even if you were, you’d probably forget about it by the time nine minutes was up.

In truth, this foolishness is what I was thinking about during my nine minutes this morning, and suddenly it struck me...the answer to all of my questions: Nine minutes is exactly the amount of time it takes for the human body to realize that the alarm had gone off, process the act of hitting the snooze button, gripe silently about the irritating sound the alarm was making, bask in the silence after hitting the snooze button, grumble quietly that you don’t want to get up, complain that you “just went to bed a minute ago, find a comfortable position in bed, and curse as the alarm goes off again...before hitting the snooze button once more.

Of course, that might just be me. Which leads me to another question: What’s with that weird-ass shift in the time/space continuum where you go to bed at 11:00p.m., close your eyes, open them less than a minute later because your alarm is going off, and it is suddenly 5:30a.m.? Maybe it’s related to the whole nine minute thing...who knows?

For those of you who are wondering, yes, I do desperately need a vacation...or some strong medication, I’m really not sure which.


Re: Why Nine Minutes?

Two words:

Flux Capacitor

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

I found this on a web site...Diff opinions are nice.

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Dear Cecil:

When my roommate's alarm goes off, he invariably presses the snooze bar. This continues in nine-minute cycles until I have to rouse him myself. All the alarms I have seen have a nine-minute snooze interval. Is this a standard number, and if so, where did it come from? --Matt Mc, Indiana, Pennsylvania

Dear Matt:

What a relief to quit dealing with the federal government and get back to the truly gut questions of our time. Although I gotta tell you, dealing with the feds was a piece of cake compared to this one. We consulted with numerous clock manufacturers, clock engineers, and clock buffs and amassed the following theories:

(1) Focus groups found that people preferred a snooze delay of eight to twelve minutes. OK, but then why not a ten-minute interval?

(2) Engineers believe their bosses come to check on them every ten minutes. Ho ho!

(3) Physiologists have found that a sleeper who doesn't want to get up will fall back into a deep sleep if left for longer than nine minutes. Yeah, right.

(4) Five minutes seems too short and ten minutes seems too long. Nine minutes may seem better than ten while not being significantly different. My reaction: Bah. Nine minutes does not seem better; it seems stupid.

(5) On LED (the old red display) clocks, the snooze function will work for only 60 minutes, so you want to fit the greatest possible number of snooze periods into that time. Nine minutes gives you six snooze periods with a minute's leeway each time for pressing the snooze bar. "Nonsense," one engineer commented. No argument here.

(6) "I figured it was actually 512 seconds (29)," one informant speculated. "Or maybe, since the clock is counting (typically) the power cycles from the wall socket, it's because nine minutes is 32,400 cycles, very close to 215 (32,768)." Engineer's comment: Nice try, bub, but clocks don't count that way.

(7) General Instruments, one of the first designers of the chip used in LED clocks in the late 60s, set the chip logic to allow a nine-minute delay. Others continue to use this chip or copied the idea without changing the interval (e.g., National Semiconductor's type MM5370 digital alarm-clock chip--I tell ya, do we research this stuff or what?). Fine, but why nine?

(8) On a digital clock, nine is the greatest interval obtainable by advancing some sort of "snooze counter" on the ones column. But why mess with the ones column? Why not put the snooze counter on the tens column and advance that by one?

(9) In the days of dial clocks, the snooze interval was originally intended to be ten minutes max, but precision was unimportant and engineers were content if they could make the interval nine minutes and change. When the industry switched to digital, clock designers figured the standard snooze interval was nine minutes; "and change" went out the window.

Now we're getting somewhere. Partial confirmation of this view comes from Jay "Pappy" Kennan, a clock collector who took apart an old GE electromechanical clock with one of the earliest snooze buttons. (Pappy helpfully posted photos of the clock's innards on his Web site; see the links at the bottom of www.ma.ultranet.com/~jayman.) The clock's snooze-gear mechanism was not precise; the snooze interval could be anywhere from nine to nine and a half minutes. Pappy's opinion, seconded by a clock engineer, was that the original, none-too-ambitious designers wanted a clock with a snooze interval in the nine-to-ten-minute range.

So what may have happened was, some early chip designer inspected an old mechanical clock with a snooze button, figured that a nine-minute snooze interval had been ordained by the clock gods, and built it into his chip--and we've been stuck with it ever since. That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.

--CECIL ADAMS

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

Why not 9 minutes?

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

It would seem Roland's mentioned problems here seem to be concentrated during the later hours of te night and the early hours of the morning before sunrise. I say the easiest way to deal with this issue is this.

SUN DIAL

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

Well my clock goes off every 7 minutes. But it's old. Does the age of the clock make a difference? Does it lose it's snooze minutes as it gets older?

I think the real question here is, what is Roland doing with his time that he has enough spare time to really ponder this question in such depth? :P

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

sharonp wrote:
I think the real question here is, what is Roland doing with his time that he has enough spare time to really ponder this question in such depth? :P

Roland owns his own business, which leaves him wim with enough down-time for several things; like pondering life's great mysteries, stiring up trouble, and writing...

Is writing a subject you wanted to talk about Sharon? :twisted:

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

writing? who said anything about writing, not me! :lol:

Re: Why Nine Minutes?

Spoken like the truly chicken-hearted :roll: