GAS PRICES

What are the gas prices right now where you are at?

Here in Michigan yesterday I filled up my truck and paid $2.59/ gallon.

I put $69.00 in before the pump stopped and would not let me put any more in without starting a new transaction. It was ok because it was pretty much full but what happens when it gets above $3.00?

So any of you have it that bad out there?


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It's around 2.40 here in Derry, NH, and that's at the WalMart gas staion.....I have an 8cylinder and am on a limited budget, so needless to say we are stuck in the house for the majority of the time these days!

Stace

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Yeah, Derry Walmart is usually the cheapest in town. Yesterday, I was down in Salem, NH and paid $2.59 at Mobil. Rediculous! :!:

Emily

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$2.49 at Sam's Club in MD.

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Just filled up my truck today at 2.47 a gallon it ran about $37.00, you do the math on the gallons it took to fill up...

Give up?

Just over 15 gallons (small truck).

:(

George...

$69.00????

What are you driving an Abrams military tank?!

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Miguel,

I drive a Dodge ram 3/4 Ton Pick up with a 32 Gallon tank. I think it's 32 gallon. It's my work truck. I drive it way down to the line hoping the prices get lower. LOL jk I was on the highway and waited till I seen a Gas station my company gas card was for and we were on fumes.

Last night I was out and about and prices were now at $2.69.

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The cheapest I've found here in Alabama is 1.35.

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HOLY CRAP!!!!

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2.53 and that is in the small town of Winchendon.

When are they going to invent hover crafts already LOL

:P

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In answer to KPic: When the oil companies can find a way to make money off of it. Sadly the idea of the internal combustion engine has been obsolete for decades. There are engines out there that can run on anything from sunlight to water to even trash, but the development of those fuel sources has been slowed by the power the oil companies wield over the government. Sad but true.

As someone whose family has spent many years in the business, I have to say that the current gas prices are a joke perpetrated upon us by our own government and their corporate ties:

Most of the oil from the Alaskan pipeline and Texas oil wells is sold overseas by request of our own government, and the majority of the oil we use in this country is imported from the middle-east. I’m not telling anyone anything that you don’t already know; but here is the kicker—OPEC is controlling the rate of oil production for a specific reason: to ensure that the political power of that region of the world is kept at a high level now that, realistically, one of region’s major governments will be U.S. controlled.

Will the government of Iraq be a puppet for the U.S.? Who knows what the truth of that mess is, but that is how the leaders of OPEC are looking at it.

The fact of the matter is that it all comes down to dollars and cents. Why should an American oil company sell its Alaskan oil in the U.S. for $.79 a gallon when they can get the equivalent of $4.30 a liter in England or Japan? What would you do?

The problem is that many of the American oil companies are not really American companies any more. Take Getty for example: My family owned a Getty station for over 18 years, and in 2003 the Getty oil company was sold to Lukoil…a Russian oil conglomerate. That’s right; the corporation started by J. Paul Getty is now a Russian company. One of the first things that Lukoil did was to lower the profit margin of your local dealer, so instead of making 7.3 cents per gallon the station owner was only making 4.9 cents per gallon. They also raised the fee for using the Getty name by 30%. Luckily we were able to sell out before the prices started their sharp increases, because there are so many independent station owners who are going under today.

I don’t really mind that the oil companies are making a killing; that’s business. My problem is that our wonderful government is allowing these multi-national conglomerates to take money out of the pockets of hard-working American citizens and get away with polluting our oceans while the politicians accept huge campaign donations.

All in all, I’m sorry to say that we, the American public are truly the ones to blame for the price of gasoline in this country. The truth is that we allowed these prices to get out of control. Can we really complain after we elect as our leaders two people (Bush and Cheney) who own oil wells? Is it a coincidence that the price of gas went up sharply after these men were elected…twice?

I guess it’s just another one of those things that make you go HMMM?

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$2 frickin 75! up .26 since SATURDAY!

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Well I know I brought it up and I know I am complaining about it but....

I must tell you that gas is and has been at an all time low. Gas has NEVER been this low.

I am dead serious. Ask your parents how much gas was when they got their first car. Ask how much money they made an hour. Figure out the percentage. Now add that percentage to what gas prices are now. I be your parents make a lot more. It's called inflation and gas is one of the last things to move with inflation. Heck, look at a gallon of milk. AND WE USE ALL OUR OWN COWS! Now how does that work???

We have it good, really. We have just had it too good the last 10 years or more. Gas was more expensive back in the 60's and 70's. and even further back.

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Agreed, but it still hurts.

I was in DR this summer and gas there was about $3.50 per gallon or so when you did the conversion.

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Gas prices in Canada were pretty crazy when we drove through there on our honeymoon in October. It was ~ .99/liter, and there are almost 4 liters in a gallon. Plus $1 american is only about $1.20 Canadian, so the exchange rate isn't very good either.

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I here the U.K is above $6.00

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GeorgeH wrote:
I here the U.K is above $6.00

In Japan it's $23.00*.

*I made that up.

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Gas prices go up. It's a fact of life. Yes, occasionally, it will go down a couple cents here or there, but I don't remember ever seeing a significant decrease in gas prices. Yes, it's been more ridiculous as of late, but it's a non-renewable resource. If you don't like it... buy a hybrid, an electric car (yes, there are mod for the hybrids to make them electric), or a good old-fashioned bicycle.

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Hybrid is the way to go. I just seen an article about how they modified the Hybrid now to go 250 miles per Gallon of gasoline from 60 miles. Shoot you could drive Coast to Coast and back again on about 16 gallons of gas.

Now that's Awesome! Do they make those in 4 Wheel Drive? LOL

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I was just checking some reviews on hybrids. Everyone says they have no power, duh. But they all love it. They are starting for about $22,000. That's cheap. And one of them said that what he used to pay in gas covers his payments. He did say he drives a lot. But wow. They one I was looking at had I think it said a 16 gallon tank. The one thing everybody didn't like was that there were very few options. BUT...I think I'm gonna order one. For me and my 5 kids....ya right. I guess I'll wait till they come in Mini vans. I'm sure it's not to far behind.

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GeorgeH wrote:
Hybrid is the way to go. I just seen an article about how they modified the Hybrid now to go 250 miles per Gallon of gasoline from 60 miles. Shoot you could drive Coast to Coast and back again on about 16 gallons of gas.

Now that's Awesome! Do they make those in 4 Wheel Drive? LOL

Here's the article, however, it seems this is far from being a production car.

People in general are not early adopters so it will be a while before someone takes the risk and invests in making this a real alternative. Then for it to be a success is a whole other story.

Also, you SITLL have to plug this car in which means that the electric company is still having to burn nonrenewable sources to power this thing.

Current hybrids don't have to do that, they recharge the batteries from the gasoline engine and from the energy generated while braking. They still use gasoline, just a lot more efficiently.

I like Roland's comment about making cars run from trash ala Back to the Future II.

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Roland's idea is great....However, we could all be like Daryl Hannah (Splash) and we could have our cars run on vegatable oil as well.

She was on Howard Stern the other day and spoke about how her car runs on vegatable oil. The biggest expense for her was turning her engine and car over to be able to use the oil as gasoline.

We could all just stop at McDonald's before work and pick some oil up in a to go container LOL

:D

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Not all vehicles need to be modified. For those who own a vehicle with a diesel engine (Including some Mercedes/Benz, some Dodge Trucks, some volvos) There are already many out there usning what is referred to as bio-diesel with is basically just vegetable oil. They are reporting that so far the only odd side-effect is that the exhaust smells like french fries. If you happen to own a diesel fueled vehicle, research this first before buying in. Even supporters of veggie oil powered vehicles have reported that long-term impact to the integrity of the engine still is yet to be seen because the testing has only recently become more seriously done. Ecologically sound vehicles are finally starting to come into their own, and petroleum based alternatives WILL have a place in the future of this country. Just be well informed about it before you go into it.

Now, to dispense with the seriousness. On Spike TV, the gear-head series Trucks features a Dodge Diesel running on veggie oil. It left a 200 foot stretch off the line. No sacrifice in power :-)

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The following is a section of a speech given in 1990 at a conference discussing the environmental impact of the March 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster. Portions of this speech were used, in conjunction with some very graphic footage, in a 1994 film called On Deadly Ground.

“How many of you out there have heard of 'alternate engines' -- engines that can run on anything from alcohol to garbage or water; or carburetors that can get 100s of miles to the gallon, or electric or magnetic engines that can practically run forever? You haven't heard about them because if they were come into use, they would put the oil companies out of business.

The concept of the combustion engine has been obsolete for over 50 years, but because of the oil cartels and corrupt government regulations, we in the rest of the world have been forced to use gasoline for over 100 years.

Big business is primarily responsible for destroying the water we drink, the air we breath, and the food we eat. They have no cure for the world they've destroyed. They care only for the money they make in the process.

How many oil spills can we endure? Millions and millions of gallons of oil are now destroying the ocean and the many forms of life they support. Among these is Plankton, which supplies 60-90% of the Earth's oxygen, and supports the entire marine ecosystem which forms the basis of our planet's food supply. But the plankton is dying.

I thought, 'Well, let's go to some remote state or country -- anywhere on earth' -- but in doing a little research, I realized that these people broker toxic waste all over the world. They basically control the legislation; and in fact, they control the law. The law says no company can be fined over $25,000 a day. For companies making 10 million dollars a day by dumping lethal toxic waste into the ocean, it's only 'good business' to continue doing this.

They influence the media so that they can control our minds. They have made it a crime to speak out for ourselves; and if we do so we are called 'conspiracy nuts' or laughed at.

We're angry because we're all being chemically and genetically damaged, and we don't even realize it. And unfortunately, this will effect our children.

We go to work every day, and right under out noses we see our car and the car in front of us spewing noxious and poisonous gasses that are accumulative poisons. These poisons kill us slowly, even when we see no effect.

How many of us would have believed 20 years ago that on a certain day we wouldn't be able to see 50 feet in front of us; that we wouldn't be able to take a deep breath because the air would be a mass of poisonous gas; that we wouldn't be able to drink out of our faucets; that we would have to buy water out of bottles; that the most common and God-given rights have been taken away from us; and unfortunately, the reality of our lives is so grim nobody wants to hear it.

Now I've been asked what we can do. I think we need a responsible body of people that can actually represent us, rather than big business. This body of people must not allow the introduction of anything into our environment that is not absolutely biodegradable or able to be chemically neutralized upon production.

And finally, as long as there is profit to be made from the polluting of our earth, companies and individuals will continue to do what they want. We have to force these companies to work safely and responsibly, and with all our best interest in mind, so that when they don't, we can take back our resources and our hearts and our minds to do what's right.”

This is just something to ponder while you're waiting at the gas station.

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OMG I Just filled up! $2.99/ Gallon. I knew it was coming but it still hurts!

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Last night my husband was flipping through the TV chanels and came accross a banner that said we are supposed to particiapte in a "gas out" on Sept 11, 12 & 13; buy our gas before or after those dates. I've gotten emails about that in the past but it seems our state is asking us to do this.

I said good luck with that... with Katrina destroying the Gulf, gas is not going to be coming down anytime soon.

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GretaForPrez wrote:
Last night my husband was flipping through the TV chanels and came accross a banner that said we are supposed to particiapte in a "gas out" on Sept 11, 12 & 13; buy our gas before or after those dates. I've gotten emails about that in the past but it seems our state is asking us to do this.

I said good luck with that... with Katrina destroying the Gulf, gas is not going to be coming down anytime soon.

Sweet!!

With demand dropping those 3 days, gas prices should come down...I'm buying all my gas those days!
:wowdance:

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What are you going to do? Stock pile it? You're just going to need more.

Gas prices aren't coming back down. Supply and demand my friends!

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OK I just filled up and paid $71.54, paid $2.56 a gallon for regular unleaded, which is the best deal going around here........

On a sidenote, my next door neighbor uses a commercial van for work, and we saw them siphoning the gas from his company vehicle into his wife's minivan!!!!! It's getting that bad......

Stacey

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WOW, Seems like I haven't seen 2.56/ Gallon in a couple of weeks.

I have a company truck as well. I would never steal from my boss. If I were you I wouldn't trust them to much.

I mean really, How much more is it really? It's probably no more than one more trip with the family to McDonalds. It's fun to complain but stealing isn't cool.

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That's the kind of people they are.....siphoning stolen gas is merely the tip of the iceberg. Like you said, it's probably not much of a difference anyway. The guy most likely has to record his mileage with each fillup, so it would stand to reason that it will catch up with him eventually.

As I said, they are scofflaws, plain and simple, and I'm not at all suprised at what I saw.....

Stace

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GretaForPrez wrote:
What are you going to do? Stock pile it? You're just going to need more.

Gas prices aren't coming back down. Supply and demand my friends!

Can you really call it supply and demand when the government allows the oil companies to manipulate the supply? If this practice of “supply manipulation” were done in any other business the Federal Trade Commission would be all over those responsible, calling their actions “Price Gouging” or “Price Fixing”…just ask companies like Nintendo of America who were hit by Class Actions brought by the FTC for manipulating the availability of their products to drive up the price.

Apparently our wonderful Government thinks that price gouging is okay when it is done by “Big Oil” but not by any other business. Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that both the President and Vice-President own oil wells…

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Look at it this way. Say YOU own the oil, and everyone wants it.

Are you going to be fair and sell at a reasonable price? You can answer yes but that's a bunch of crap. Don't be dellusional and think for one minute your goverment is going to be on your side.

If you have something and people want it, you're charging through the roof and you know it.

The world will never be fair - wake up.

What you should concentrate on is keeping your kids in school as long as humanly possible. Then maybe they will land a job that keeps them comfortable and possibly be able to take care of your broke ass, sans retirement funds, social security and the likes.

Gas prices... I think they call that the tip of the iceberg. :roll:

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GretaForPrez wrote:
Look at it this way. Say YOU own the oil, and everyone wants it.

Are you going to be fair and sell at a reasonable price? You can answer yes but that's a bunch of crap. Don't be dellusional and think for one minute your goverment is going to be on your side.

If you have something and people want it, you're charging through the roof and you know it.

The world will never be fair - wake up.

What you should concentrate on is keeping your kids in school as long as humanly possible. Then maybe they will land a job that keeps them comfortable and possibly be able to take care of your broke ass, sans retirement funds, social security and the likes.

Gas prices... I think they call that the tip of the iceberg. :roll:

That's why we have a FTC in this country...to make sure that "Big Business" applies "fair market value" to their products. However, the oil companies have been allowed to manipulate the market for so long that the public have become slaves to them. This is sad but true. It is the government's responsability to protect the interests of the public, unfortunately our wonderful leaders have chosen to protect their own interests instead. These are the people we elect to office...this is the best we can do...the huiman race is DOOMED.

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How funny. My husband just called me on the 2-way to tell me that a gas station in Quincy is listing prices today at $3.19 for regular and $3.69 for presmium. Yesterday is was $0.63 lower. That's a little different from the usual 5 cents...

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DON'T YOU GO STARTING AGAIN!!!

Roland! Don't you dare start another debate just to make this girl look foolish.

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Thanks but I think I'm good. It takes a lot more than somebody else's opinion to make me look foolish.

Besides I think we all agree BUSH SUCKS.

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GretaForPrez wrote:
How funny. My husband just called me on the 2-way to tell me that a gas station in Quincy is listing prices today at $3.19 for regular and $3.69 for presmium. Yesterday is was $0.63 lower. That's a little different from the usual 5 cents...

:shocked:

This true?

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I'm not trying to start anything, and I'm not trying to make anyone look foolish. I'm just just pointing out the fact that our fabulous leaders are failing to protect the public while they line their own pockets.

In Gretta's words: BUSH SUCKS

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OneArmBandit wrote:
the huiman race is DOOMED.

Talk about a slippery slope.

I think gas prices shooting up is just fine, for now as long as it gets people working on other things to be smarter about fuel sources.

My slippery slope goes like this:

1) Gas prices go over $10.00 per gallon.
2) Government steps in to help regulate it temporarily while...
3) Government enacts incentives (like tax relief, and funding) to investors and corporations to help fund research and development for more practical renewable sources of energy (not unlike those listed in one off Roland's previous posts).
4) Number 3 creates markets/fields/industries to support such developments which in turn create more jobs.
5) More jobs make for a better economy.
6) This takes approximately 10-20 years, while China becomes the super power the US enjoyed being earlier this century.
7) At the same time, they make the same mistake we made depending on oil to run all machines.
8) We sell our new technological services to China to ease their oil pain.
9) We use that money to pay of the deficit which is into the quadrillions by this time due to the tax relief and funding we gave to those investors and corporations to come up with the energy solution.
10) The dollar's value skyrockets.
11) By this time, the year is 2050 and methuenhighschool.com has over 100,000 members.
12) I get 100,000 private messages (even I send myself one) telling me how smart I am for making the prediction.

You heard it here first.

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PIPE DOWN PEREZ

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LOL ur crazy Miguel 8O

3.15 down in Winchendon already...can't wait until I need to buy home heating oil

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I paid 2.99 yesterday and now I drove by the same place and it was 3.25... What bull...It is the same gas in the underground tank that is there now.

Does anyone really think this is a coincidence?: Bush elected, 9/11, war, war again, economy takes a dump, bush takes more vacations than any other sitting president in history, gas prices soar, any more you guys got?

Add me to the Bush sux vote!

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Look at it this way…in 1991 (during the first Gulf War and the first Bush era) gas prices were $1.89 a gallon—an all time high at that point. In 1998 (while Clinton was in office) the gas prices had dropped to $.79 per gallon. Today, in the second Bush era while we wage war on people who couldn’t possibly fight back (or the “W” years if you prefer) gas has again reached an all time high, topping $3.00 a gallon and still rising.

What does this all mean?

Simple: we need more White House sex scandals and less declarations of war. I believe that would be healthier all around...and make for a happier president.

Maybe that's the whole problem...Maybe "W" just cant get an intern to...NEVERMIND.

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ROTF thats great Roland...I agree!

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Make love not war!

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I paid 2.89 per gallon today, but I saw it at another station for 3.19 a gallon! :roll: Think about this, lets say Exxon gets their gas tanks filled on Monday, and we are paying 2.00 a gallon on Monday, then the gas prices change on Tuesday say to 2.25 a gallon, but the gas at Exxon is still from the same batch that came in on Monday, sounds fishy, right? I think we should continue paying Monday's prices until Monday's batch of gas runs out!

Here in VA everyone has electric heat, oil is almost unheard of! I remember my mom was like, you better buy a house with gas heat, boy was she wrong!

Nikki

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Never mind waiting a day to raise prices, try raising prices 22 cents from the morning to the afternoon! I've even heard stories of people having gas prices raised AS they are filling up at the pump.

Lowest price I saw driving 500 miles yesterday was 2.56, in NJ. Nearly gagged when I filled up in CT at 2.99 (damn car didn't need gas in NJ.)

Time for some renewable resources, folks.

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Nikkimouse76 wrote:
I paid 2.89 per gallon today, but I saw it at another station for 3.19 a gallon! :roll: Think about this, lets say Exxon gets their gas tanks filled on Monday, and we are paying 2.00 a gallon on Monday, then the gas prices change on Tuesday say to 2.25 a gallon, but the gas at Exxon is still from the same batch that came in on Monday, sounds fishy, right? I think we should continue paying Monday's prices until Monday's batch of gas runs out!

Here in VA everyone has electric heat, oil is almost unheard of! I remember my mom was like, you better buy a house with gas heat, boy was she wrong!

Nikki

That doesn't really apply.

The price is governed not only by what Exxon had to pay to get it made, but also what the supply and demand is. Basically, howw much is readily available and how much are people willing too pay for it. Granted, agencies like the FTC are responsible for setting guidelines so that prices are set according to fair practices, but supply and demand rule in free markets.

Think about this. When airlines have to fill an airplane, they typically charge a certain price per seat.

Well, when they oversell those seats becasue each one is already sold, they charge prices clear into the thousands of dollars for a seat that was worth under $300 yesterday.

;)

I've been online getting fares and I've seen prices change from one click to the next.

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you hit one of the nails on the head there Miguel..."willing to pay". Basic economics. I wonder if we are limitless in our willingness to pay for gas, being the petroleum driven society that we are? How much will it take to say enough is enough? I surely haven't seen fewer people on the road these days, so oil companies KNOW that they can increase prices and get away with it at this point.

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$3.12 here for cheap gas in western MA.

Were you aware - gas stations only make $.05-.07 a gallon on gas?

Dont hate the stations, hate the supplier.

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Nikkimouse76 wrote:
I paid 2.89 per gallon today, but I saw it at another station for 3.19 a gallon! :roll: Think about this, lets say Exxon gets their gas tanks filled on Monday, and we are paying 2.00 a gallon on Monday, then the gas prices change on Tuesday say to 2.25 a gallon, but the gas at Exxon is still from the same batch that came in on Monday, sounds fishy, right? I think we should continue paying Monday's prices until Monday's batch of gas runs out!
Nikki

Sorry, but that’s just not how it works. Years ago the station owners had to buy the gas before it was dropped into their station’s holding tanks, but many oil companies have changed that practice so they can control the pricing more efficiently.

Now-a-days the oil companies—like Getty for example—drop the load of fuel and expect that it be pumped in a timely manner. They set the price and give the station owner a commission on the sales. Therefore, the oil company can call the station owner at any time and tell him what to set the price at.

JV is correct in that station owners only make a small amount on the fuel they sell. With Getty it used to be that the profit margin of your local dealer was 7.3 cents per gallon. But when Getty was sold to Lukoil in ’93 the commission was lowered so the station owner was only making 4.9 cents per gallon. Those same station owners also have to pay a fee for the use the brand name, because without that brand name the stigma of “bad gas” is attached to their product…even though it all comes out of the same tank.

WHAT? SAME TANK? That’s right. Every drop of gasoline sold in the Merrimac Valley—EVERY DROP—comes from one of two holding tanks—Maine Central or Providence Coast. The only differences between that spiffy Mobil Ultra and Haffner’s Super Unleaded is the price, the color die dropped into their own holding tanks, and the name on the side of the trucks delivering it.

How do you explain the difference in price??? Well…the explanation isn’t better gas, it isn’t better service, and it isn’t better reliability. It is simply that Mobil has a more recognizable name…that’s right people, you’re paying for advertising. Mobil’s profit margin is higher simply because people know who they are. Sad but true.

“But Haffner’s gas is from the bottom of the tank” people have said to me when I revealed the truth to them. “It has all the sediment in it.” Sorry to burst this bubble, but I’m afraid that it is simply not true. ALL gas has sediment in it. There is no way to avoid that. However, when you see a gas station that is “out of fuel” and is waiting for a delivery to begin pumping again there is still about 150 or so gallons in the tanks in the ground. Why? To prevent the pumps from pushing that sediment into any vehicles they stop pumping when the level is too low. Pay attention folks: you are more likely to get gas with sediment in it from a station that has recently had a delivery, because the movement of the gas in the tanks stirs up all the sediment at the bottom of that tank…it has nothing to do with the name on the pump.

So…why is the price of the gas that is already in the ground at your local station going up so fast? Simple…“Big Oil” wants to profit from the misfortune of others. Sadly, the FTC and other government agencies who are supposed to regulate these matters are doing nothing about it. Why? Ask our wonderful President Bush…the same guy who can have our military prepared to invade a foreign country in 12 hours but who has thus far been unable to send relief to those in need upon our own soil.

PHEW…that rant took a lot out of me.
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